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		<title>By: Rock</title>
		<link>http://www.mindruin.com/three-year-mandatory-volunteerism/comment-page-1/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its &quot;pwned&quot; you fkn nub. Get it right double tard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its &#8220;pwned&#8221; you fkn nub. Get it right double tard.</p>
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		<title>By: iratesloth</title>
		<link>http://www.mindruin.com/three-year-mandatory-volunteerism/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>iratesloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Walt. Thanks for posting your thoughts. Even though I have not read the bill in its entirety, I feel less government is more government. The bill was originally written to include a possible draft, but at the last moment it was redacted. My main points were to illustrate the lack of news agencies coverage of the bill, and how I had trouble using google to find information on the GIVE act. Also, I read the definition of a fascist government and look at our current government and see many similarities that I can&#039;t ignore. 

1. A popular leader who has complete executive power (thanks to eight years of Bush).
2. A one party system. Democrats control all branches of the government.
3. Youth service corps. (I called them youth brigades, but I was just trying to grab peoples&#039; attention.) These were popular in Nazi Germany.
4. Government controlling more and more of our personal lives through inefficient use of tax dollars.
5. An unpopular overseas empire.
6. A government that has ripped all of its citizens rights, while spying on us.

I could go on, but I won&#039;t bore you since you most likely will never read my comment. The U.S. government is out of control, and disinformation is a key piece of their agenda. Hard to get the truth these days, wouldn&#039;t you say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Walt. Thanks for posting your thoughts. Even though I have not read the bill in its entirety, I feel less government is more government. The bill was originally written to include a possible draft, but at the last moment it was redacted. My main points were to illustrate the lack of news agencies coverage of the bill, and how I had trouble using google to find information on the GIVE act. Also, I read the definition of a fascist government and look at our current government and see many similarities that I can&#8217;t ignore. </p>
<p>1. A popular leader who has complete executive power (thanks to eight years of Bush).<br />
2. A one party system. Democrats control all branches of the government.<br />
3. Youth service corps. (I called them youth brigades, but I was just trying to grab peoples&#8217; attention.) These were popular in Nazi Germany.<br />
4. Government controlling more and more of our personal lives through inefficient use of tax dollars.<br />
5. An unpopular overseas empire.<br />
6. A government that has ripped all of its citizens rights, while spying on us.</p>
<p>I could go on, but I won&#8217;t bore you since you most likely will never read my comment. The U.S. government is out of control, and disinformation is a key piece of their agenda. Hard to get the truth these days, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
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		<title>By: Double Scissors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double Scissors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, IrateSloth.  I think you got powned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, IrateSloth.  I think you got powned.</p>
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		<title>By: Chads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article and nice comments Walt.  Hopefully you stay around and comment on more of sloth&#039;s articles :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article and nice comments Walt.  Hopefully you stay around and comment on more of sloth&#8217;s articles <img src='http://www.mindruin.com/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re not able to go to the links above, here is the legislation that was passed in 1990.  It is Title 42, Chapter 129:

§ 12501. Findings and purpose

(a) Findings 

The Congress finds the following: 

(1) Throughout the United States, there are pressing unmet human, educational, environmental, and public safety needs. 

(2) Americans desire to affirm common responsibilities and shared values, and join together in positive experiences, that transcend race, religion, gender, age, disability, region, income, and education. 

(3) The rising costs of postsecondary education are putting higher education out of reach for an increasing number of citizens. 

(4) Americans of all ages can improve their communities and become better citizens through service to the United States. 

(5) Nonprofit organizations, local governments, States, and the Federal Government are already supporting a wide variety of national service programs that deliver needed services in a cost-effective manner. 

(6) Residents of low-income communities, especially youth and young adults, can be empowered through their service, and can help provide future community leadership. 

(b) Purpose 

It is the purpose of this chapter to— 

(1) meet the unmet human, educational, environmental, and public safety needs of the United States, without displacing existing workers; 

(2) renew the ethic of civic responsibility and the spirit of community throughout the United States; 

(3) expand educational opportunity by rewarding individuals who participate in national service with an increased ability to pursue higher education or job training; 

(4) encourage citizens of the United States, regardless of age, income, or disability, to engage in full-time or part-time national service; 

(5) reinvent government to eliminate duplication, support locally established initiatives, require measurable goals for performance, and offer flexibility in meeting those goals; 

(6) expand and strengthen existing service programs with demonstrated experience in providing structured service opportunities with visible benefits to the participants and community; 

(7) build on the existing organizational service infrastructure of Federal, State, and local programs and agencies to expand full-time and part-time service opportunities for all citizens; and 

(8) provide tangible benefits to the communities in which national service is performed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not able to go to the links above, here is the legislation that was passed in 1990.  It is Title 42, Chapter 129:</p>
<p>§ 12501. Findings and purpose</p>
<p>(a) Findings </p>
<p>The Congress finds the following: </p>
<p>(1) Throughout the United States, there are pressing unmet human, educational, environmental, and public safety needs. </p>
<p>(2) Americans desire to affirm common responsibilities and shared values, and join together in positive experiences, that transcend race, religion, gender, age, disability, region, income, and education. </p>
<p>(3) The rising costs of postsecondary education are putting higher education out of reach for an increasing number of citizens. </p>
<p>(4) Americans of all ages can improve their communities and become better citizens through service to the United States. </p>
<p>(5) Nonprofit organizations, local governments, States, and the Federal Government are already supporting a wide variety of national service programs that deliver needed services in a cost-effective manner. </p>
<p>(6) Residents of low-income communities, especially youth and young adults, can be empowered through their service, and can help provide future community leadership. </p>
<p>(b) Purpose </p>
<p>It is the purpose of this chapter to— </p>
<p>(1) meet the unmet human, educational, environmental, and public safety needs of the United States, without displacing existing workers; </p>
<p>(2) renew the ethic of civic responsibility and the spirit of community throughout the United States; </p>
<p>(3) expand educational opportunity by rewarding individuals who participate in national service with an increased ability to pursue higher education or job training; </p>
<p>(4) encourage citizens of the United States, regardless of age, income, or disability, to engage in full-time or part-time national service; </p>
<p>(5) reinvent government to eliminate duplication, support locally established initiatives, require measurable goals for performance, and offer flexibility in meeting those goals; </p>
<p>(6) expand and strengthen existing service programs with demonstrated experience in providing structured service opportunities with visible benefits to the participants and community; </p>
<p>(7) build on the existing organizational service infrastructure of Federal, State, and local programs and agencies to expand full-time and part-time service opportunities for all citizens; and </p>
<p>(8) provide tangible benefits to the communities in which national service is performed.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the law that was passed in 1990:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00012501----000-.html

Here is the amendments to the law that was passed in 1990 (HR1388):
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388

Here are a few more places for you to go look.  The answers are there, you just have to go look for them.  And, if your question is about proposed legislation, you may just have to go to one of those &#039;boring .gov&#039; pages in order to find what you want.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=HR+1388&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.1388:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/show

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the law that was passed in 1990:<br />
<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00012501----000-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00012501&#8212;-000-.html</a></p>
<p>Here is the amendments to the law that was passed in 1990 (HR1388):<br />
<a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388" rel="nofollow">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388</a></p>
<p>Here are a few more places for you to go look.  The answers are there, you just have to go look for them.  And, if your question is about proposed legislation, you may just have to go to one of those &#8216;boring .gov&#8217; pages in order to find what you want.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=HR+1388&#038;aq=f&#038;oq" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=HR+1388&#038;aq=f&#038;oq</a>=</p>
<p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.1388" rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.1388</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/show" rel="nofollow">http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/show</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388" rel="nofollow">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388</a></p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read the GIVE Act?  I have.  It took awhile to read, and I got a headache, but I read it.  Would it surprise you to know that the GIVE Act is primarily amendments to law that was passed 19 years ago in 1990?  It shouldn&#039;t, because that&#039;s primarily what the GIVE Act is.

Would it also surprise you to hear that the GIVE Act is only asking people to do more of what they are already doing?  Volunteering at the local Senior Center...  Joining the Peace Corps...  Helping with the Salvation Army and the Red Cross...

There is no mention in the GIVE Act of creating a &#039;Youth Brigade&#039; or having everyone serve three months of basic training.  That is all, A-L-L, ALL a hoax generated by Alex Jones and his &#039;need to be seen by a psychiatrist&#039; croonies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read the GIVE Act?  I have.  It took awhile to read, and I got a headache, but I read it.  Would it surprise you to know that the GIVE Act is primarily amendments to law that was passed 19 years ago in 1990?  It shouldn&#8217;t, because that&#8217;s primarily what the GIVE Act is.</p>
<p>Would it also surprise you to hear that the GIVE Act is only asking people to do more of what they are already doing?  Volunteering at the local Senior Center&#8230;  Joining the Peace Corps&#8230;  Helping with the Salvation Army and the Red Cross&#8230;</p>
<p>There is no mention in the GIVE Act of creating a &#8216;Youth Brigade&#8217; or having everyone serve three months of basic training.  That is all, A-L-L, ALL a hoax generated by Alex Jones and his &#8216;need to be seen by a psychiatrist&#8217; croonies.</p>
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